SPEAKER_05 0:02

Welcome to another discussion from the Parkbench, where an artist and an athlete explore a new topic and hope to inspire the communities of arts and sports. Because we know they matter and play a huge role in shaping our youth and our community. So get comfortable and join us from the park bench.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Good morning, Ted.

SPEAKER_05 0:24

Good morning, Kamala.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

I'm gonna ask you today, just a simple one. Uh what did you have for breakfast? I know I like to say it, but I I I I want to see that you're gonna listen back to this and you're gonna be like, gosh darn it, I I didn't add that protein, or I'm not doing what she's saying to do and and looking at my macros and what I'm probably gonna say is really that question again? Yes.

SPEAKER_05 0:46

Uh no, so what did I have for breakfast? I mean, I don't have breakfast right now.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

Oh yes, you're doing the the fasting, so how's that going?

SPEAKER_05 0:53

I yeah, it's going really well. Yeah, it's once you kind of get into the rhythm, it's you're not hungry until noon. But but I did have an AG1 drink this morning, which is the um athletic greens, which is just vitamins. Okay, cool. Uh and a tea. And a tea, yeah. But how about you? What did you have, Ruckus?

SPEAKER_00 1:08

Um this morning I haven't I I I'm the same as you. I don't but I did I've I've um I've brought back my mushroom tea that I have in the morning. So I I know why you have to make that I don't know. Oh, have you tried it? Because have you tried it? It's a has a very good opinion.

SPEAKER_05 1:25

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:26

So it's chaga mushrooms.

SPEAKER_05 1:27

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:28

And then so you you brew it, you have to brew it, and it comes out with this really dark looking, it's very rich, has a very earthy taste.

SPEAKER_05 1:36

You're not winning me over it.

SPEAKER_00 1:37

I know, but like when when I when I do drink it, I find that when it does leave, when when I don't have it for a while, like I notice it. So I've brought that back, and uh it's just something, anyways. I like I said, we haven't actually had any episodes about nutrition, right? And I'm super excited to have those once we you know figure out how we're gonna do it, but I can talk about food and nutrition.

SPEAKER_05 1:57

For that episode, for that episode, you can definitely ask me how to have breakfast.

SPEAKER_00 2:00

So save that one until the next one. Right. Like you can talk about sports all the time. I can literally talk about food like all the time. And I'm always curious about what people lead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But uh Segway into health and wellness, um, we can introduce our guest today. So we're super excited to have with us Nick Anteya. He is a registered physio and he's also the managing partner of um a local business, Ottawa Physiotherapy and Sport Clinic. Thank you, Nick, for being here.

SPEAKER_02 2:29

Thank you for having me. Yes. And I will say I'm uh with Ted on the mushroom tea. It sounds horrible. Horrible. I didn't want to say it, but uh you could have.

SPEAKER_00 2:40

I will let both of you try it, just to try.

SPEAKER_05 2:43

You're gonna let us try it?

SPEAKER_00 2:44

Well, like sorry, not let I I will I'm gonna bring a sample and I'm gonna let you both try it. And I guarantee you you're going to say it's not as bad as I thought. I will I I guarantee you, because I I've done this experiment with other people, and it's always good to try new things. And the health benefits attached to it, it's mind-boggling. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 3:02

What does it taste like, Earth? Yeah, it's a good thing. It sounds like it tastes like exactly. Have you ever had dirt before? Yeah. Have you ever had dirt water?

SPEAKER_00 3:12

That's what it is. But it's the But anyways, yes. Yeah, it it's gross, but it's very beneficial. So uh so um Nick, tell us a bit about um about the about the clinic and your role there.

SPEAKER_02 3:24

Aaron Ross Powell Sounds good. Yeah, so um Ottawa Physio and Sport Clinics, or OPTSC, to shorten it up, has been around since 2008. Um so it started as a very small operation in Barhaven, uh just a little three-bed clinic, and it's grown substantially since. So we're now at nine clinics in the Ottawa area, um, all physiotherapy-owned. So all of our managers are basically physios who have been with us for uh quite some time. And um yeah, for for me personally, so I've been there since 2009. Um I'm I'm the managing partner of the Canada Lakes location as well as the Barhaven location, and um part of our leadership team at the company. So my my broader role is kind of sales and marketing, uh hence why you have me on the podcast and not somebody else. Yeah. But um yeah, no, it's uh it's you know, Ottawa, Ottawa's a booming city, and it's an exciting city to be to be involved with in terms of the physio world.

SPEAKER_00 4:22

Mm-hmm. Yeah. So um you know, from a from a business perspective, I mean you are hands-on, but you are also like you w deal with the clients, you'll deal with the marketing. There's uh I'm I'm sure it's just overwhelming like your hours, like you probably work 24-7.

SPEAKER_02 4:39

Uh there is a lot of work involved. And I'm I'm working, you know, on some strategies to try to find a little bit more balance. And I think that it's slowly but surely I'm getting there. But no, it's it's the most rewarding job in the world, so I I don't have anything to complain about.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

Aaron Powell Yeah, you're doing what you love.

SPEAKER_02 4:55

Oh, yeah, I do. Yeah. It's awesome. Aaron Powell How did you get started in that space? Aaron Ross Powell So I mean I was always very into sports, um you know, and I and I liked my sciences in school. Uh but the the real story is my my old man had a massive car accident when I was in uh grade eight, so 1998. Not to age myself, but I just did. Um he would have been in his mid-30s as a police officer. So he was outside of his cruiser and he got hit by an 18-wheeler on an accident scene. So kind of worst case scenario. Um so he had 12 broken ribs, punctured lung, uh, hip fracture, head trauma. So three weeks in ICU in limbo, is he going to make it, is he not gonna make it, pulled through. Uh but needless to say, that was a lot of rehab ahead of him. So so I attended a lot of his rehab sessions with him first, you know, like uh in the rehab center of the hospital, not so much. But once he went to the private sector, um and long behold, I mean it took a while, but I like physio gave me my dad back, right? Like so I thought to myself, like, what an amazing job where you can basically have like such an impact on obviously one's individual health, but on the whole family as a whole. Of course. So and I just, you know, and then I saw the sports, I saw science, I was like, this is something that I think is gonna be my calling. So from a young age, I kind of knew and worked hard, studied hard, and here I am today.

SPEAKER_00 6:23

I love that. That is an amazing story. That is an amazing story. It reminds me of do you remember the movie with Harrison Ford? It's rebuilding Henry. Oh, oh, did he have He he he had uh Amnesia? Yes, well he had a I don't know if it was an accident, but he had to go in a hospital, he forgot who he was.

SPEAKER_06 6:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

He was a lawyer, like on Wall Street, and he didn't have any idea who he was, and he actually physically so it was an accident too.

SPEAKER_04 6:52

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

He was he was in a home where he was like he had to have rehab, he had to learn to walk. He had to learn to walk. Okay. And it it's it's a movie about, you know, him realizing who he is now, and you know, like he started to paint. You don't paint, I don't, like you don't like tomatoes, I don't, you know, so he became a new person. Okay. But the people around him that helped him rebuild who he is, the heart and passion they have, it's unbelievable. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:23

It takes uh ph physios are a special breed. Like whether you're a hospital, home setting or clinic setting, I mean, you need to you need to live, obviously working with people and you need to have, you know, a different level of empathy, I think, than the general population.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

100 empathy, but also like I don't want to say tough love, but just like a support. Like you got this. You can do this. You have the strength within you, like push them a little bit, you know, pushing them empathetically, but right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 7:55

And it's yeah, and it's not always easy. And obviously, you know, like like in my story, I mean you deal with the person, but you're dealing with the the family as a unit, right? So sometimes, you know, it's to make them understand there's a reason I'm pushing, you know, your husband. There's a reason I'm pushing your kid to you know, not to tears, but sometimes, you know, you gotta push your limits.

SPEAKER_00 8:14

Aaron Powell It's okay. Like you're like you're like it's yeah, and and you are it is part of the whole family, too.

SPEAKER_05 8:20

It does kind of open my mind up too about someone being injured like your father was. And you know, the the doctors can heal them, but there's so much more work to be done to get back to regular life, right? To kind of be yourself. Aaron Powell Yeah, that's uh interesting.

SPEAKER_00 8:35

Aaron Powell So with your clients, I mean you you did you did mention about kids. So um do you like what are your clients look like from a demographic point of view?

SPEAKER_02 8:44

Aaron Ross Powell So we're all over the place. So you can walk into the clinic, I think so. I've been working, this is my 17th year. Um my youngest client ever was three years old. Uh but I mean there's pediatric physios that'll treat when you're months old if you have tortocolis.

SPEAKER_06 8:58

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:58

Um my oldest client to date is still an active patient who I see once a month from some maintenance work, and she just turned 96 last week. Oh, that's awesome. So huge, huge spectrum of ages, which keeps it fun, really.

SPEAKER_00 9:12

Yeah. No, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 9:14

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:14

And and from a client perspective. Well, so I'm I'm gonna talk about it in terms of like from a parent. Why would, you know, unless my child is in sports, is that what would that be the only reason that they would need physio or sometimes it's it's congenital issues, right?

SPEAKER_02 9:31

So whether it's scoliosis, um, you know, like mostly in kids, a lot of what we see in kids will be, you know, activity related, sports related. Um, you know, with with kids going through growth spurts, even if you're not doing sports, you can still start to complain about little aches and pains.

SPEAKER_03 9:45

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:46

Um so it can be very, very age-dependent. But um yeah, I mean our clinics offer like such a wide variety of services, whether, like you said, it's it's with kids, um, you know, concussion rehab, pelvic health, you know, which is you know geared men and women, obviously more so uh women that we see in the clinics. Uh you know, custom knee bracing running evaluations. Like we we kind of had so many different services to offer, right?

SPEAKER_05 10:13

For sure. Trevor Burrus, Jr. And it's it's simpler, I think, as a parent, because my daughter actually has gone to OPTSC uh because she's she's 14, but she's plays every sport. So she's having a problem with her knees and she's just soreness. And so as a parent, it makes sense. Let's go to a physio, right? But I wonder the kids that don't play sports, is it hard to like it's not natural for a parent to say, oh my kid's playing video games, like should I go? I don't like they're doing something else that's not active. Yeah. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_02 10:39

Pain is definitely the number one thing that will drive drive people in to our to our clinic. So if it's not you know necessarily pain, like you could have dizziness, let's say, and but usually that's more in the older older population. Yeah. But but pain, like you also a gamer, for example, right? So let's say you have a 16-year-old who's not the most active human being. You know, we see a lot of people, what are they doing? They're on their phones, hunched over all the time. And then you see your kid sitting at the dining room table moving his neck around uncomfortably. So right away you're like, you know, is your neck sore? Yeah. And then next thing you know, they're starting to get headaches, you know. So then, you know, I'm a parent myself. I have you know, a teenager and a preteen, and it's like, you know, like once you get to a level of whining that's no longer sustainable, as a parent, you're gonna be, okay, well, let's go do something about this. Right, right. So that's where, like I said, yes, we we see athletes, don't get me wrong, we have all kinds of high-level and you know, weekend warrior kind of athletes.

SPEAKER_06 11:32

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:33

But that's how the other people end up in their like you know, they complain to the parents, and then the parents at some point say, Okay, well, we need to address this.

SPEAKER_00 11:40

Aaron Powell This is more than just growing pains, right?

SPEAKER_02 11:42

Like is like And sometimes it is growing pains.

SPEAKER_00 11:44

And sometimes it is growing pains, yeah. And and the last because there is a root, right? There's a route to the problem. And unless you kind of get that route, it can lead to other things. And if you don't nip it in the bud soon, then it's it snowballs sometimes. Yeah, it snowballs sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 11:57

And the longer you wait, like realistically, I mean everybody's got busy schedules, nobody wants to be on the clinics.

SPEAKER_00 12:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:03

But like the sooner you can, you know, like stop it in its tracks, then realistically, the less amount of time you're investing and money, right? Yeah. Um, you know, like don't don't let things linger too long because then it's it it can become a little more problematic to fix.

SPEAKER_00 12:17

Aaron Powell And what about Googling? I mean, like whenever you have something wrong, you're just like you go to Google ready. Yeah. So like don't Google.

SPEAKER_02 12:24

And it's like anything else. There's great information out there, there's bad information out there. Um it's it's kind of make not making it fun, but it's making it interesting to say the least when people are like, I know this is what I have and I've been working on this. And then the next question is, okay, well, in that case, why are you here?

SPEAKER_06 12:41

Right.

SPEAKER_02 12:42

Oh, well, it hasn't been working. But I've noticed it's frozen shoulder. Okay. We have full range of motion, but sure, let's let's go with that. Yeah, yeah. That's right. Yeah. Self-diagnosed. Trevor Burrus, Jr.: But sometimes it is valuable information, but again, it's how do you apply it, right? Like you know, like can you do your own manual therapy on your neck if something's stuck? Right. No, right. There's there's there's value in what we we have to offer.

SPEAKER_00 13:04

Aaron Ross Powell So because growing up, like I I didn't play any sports, and and so you know you you're right, until I actually have pain would be uh a time where I would come into that sort of clinic. But then again, you know, there are other reasons to go. What is the difference between what you do and then a chiropractor?

SPEAKER_02 13:24

Aaron Ross Powell So there's there's starting to be more and more overlap, I would say. Um I would say new age chiropractors uh graduating in in recent years are starting to mimic um a little bit more kind of the physio model. Um so from more like the physiotherapy standpoint, like our goal is to basically, like you said, get to the root cause. So if you're coming in with uh, say a chronic low back, okay, well, what's what's leading to that low back pain? Is it a stiff joint? Is it a combination of a stiff joint, uh, weak abdominal muscles, tight back muscles, tight glutes, then it's okay. Well, let's do a little bit of manual therapy.

SPEAKER_04 13:57

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

But it's key to combine it with core exercises, targeted stretching, targeted strengthening, so that, you know, we can discharge you with a plan saying, here's your tools, uh, you know what, Ted, you have all the information you need, you're feeling good. Yeah. Keep it up, and let's see, you know, if you keep this up a couple times a week on your own, not in the clinic, can you maintain the benefits that we worked on?

SPEAKER_04 14:20

Right.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

So historically, I mean, people think sometimes Kairos just crack, crack, crack, off you go, come back, and we'll just keep doing it.

SPEAKER_04 14:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:27

Um, I think that model's changing slowly but but surely, which is a a good thing.

SPEAKER_04 14:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

Um there's still some, you know, old school kairos out there, just like there's some old school physios who might not push exercise. So we try to be very active-based because that's where the research shows that that's what works, right? Yeah, totally. So combination of some manual, yes, sometimes we'll manipulate joints as well. Um so as physios, there's different l levels of certifications you can achieve for orthopedics. Yeah. So level five being the highest in Canada.

SPEAKER_04 14:56

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 14:57

So I'm super proud of our team. We have over a dozen level five physios out of 48 staff. So about 25% of our work staff is the highest level of certification you can have in Canada for orthopedics.

SPEAKER_00 15:07

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_02 15:08

Pretty neat.

SPEAKER_00 15:09

Yeah, that is. Well, that's that's impressive.

SPEAKER_05 15:11

Yeah, no, it is. I actually wanted to ask, like, in the minor sports space, what do you see that are the biggest topics for parents and players? Like what what are you what are they coming in with?

SPEAKER_02 15:19

Yeah. So the the biggest thing I think right now, well, from my point of view anyway, is is we're getting a lot of injuries. Sports have changed in the last 10 years, right? So when I grew up playing sports, I played soccer in the summer. I started my badminton season in September, then I went over to volleyball, then from volleyball, you know.

SPEAKER_04 15:36

Right.

SPEAKER_02 15:36

So there was you you were mostly multi-sport athletes. Now what we see is like my level plays high-level soccer. Yeah. She's playing five days a week, twelve months a year.

SPEAKER_04 15:44

Right.

SPEAKER_02 15:45

So it's a lot of overuse repetitive injury stuff. And the biggest issue with these young athletes is, you know, like if they're growing, which they are growing, you're seeing the same level of stress put on the body by this, you know, repetitive motions adding to like compounded growth over time. Yes. So we're seeing a lot more of these stress, repetitive strain injuries than we've ever seen before, right? Yeah. So in terms of like hot topics, prevention for me is is huge, right? Yeah. Um so if you can educate parents, you know, like I'll use uh teenage girls, for example, from basically 11 years old to 14, they're growing like mad, the hips are getting wider, it creates a different angle at the knees, at the ankles.

SPEAKER_03 16:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:26

So we're seeing a lot of you know, tendinitis, you know, repetitive ankle injuries, Achilles tendinitis.

SPEAKER_03 16:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:32

So if if parents can think, okay, I know my kids are going to go through that, well, here's a program. It might not be targeted to your kids specifically, but it'll englobe, say, 85% of kids. Yeah. If you can work on this preventatively, you know, here, here's your one session value, work on this. Hopefully you never have to come back and good to go, right? So prevention, I think, is key.

SPEAKER_05 16:54

It's really smart. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 16:55

And we're not we're quick to go to the dentists, you know, because our benefits allow us to go to the dentist twice a year, get your teeth clean, is everything good? Nobody goes to physio preventatively. Some people do who have been in our clinics before understand that value. But it's like, I'm gonna pick up a new sport. Hey, how's your thoracic rotation if you want to become a golfer? Is it good? Because if it's not, you're probably gonna strain your back. So here, here's some stuff you can do. Now you're ready for golf, and you just saved thousands of dollars and many, many hours in the clinics. So yeah, prevention I think is is it's a key word here.

SPEAKER_00 17:27

Well, you know what I find really interesting is first off, um as as a new coach, you're right. The hours that these young we'll we'll keep it with girls that because that's my experience, but the hours that these young girls have playing soccer a week to me is is mind-boggling.

SPEAKER_04 17:45

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 17:46

And like anything, conditioning and preparing your body for that. So we talk about nutrition, refueling, but also it's the stuff outside the sport, which I think can help for preventative. So I I I took Pilates way back when, and I feel that was my foundation for understanding my body and and kind of my core. And I think we underestimate how early we should be incorporating some of these movements for kids at a young age, like a like a proper push-up or like a proper squat or knowing how to engage, you know, like when when you kind of look at that pelvic, like you talk about like in Pilates, they they do that like pelvic crunch. Yes, a pelvic tilt. Having that at a why not? Like at a very early age to understand what your body's like.

SPEAKER_02 18:38

Yeah, I think the reality, which is unfortunate, is that we live in a busy society, right? So it's like it's it's go, go, go. So to add one more sort of task to everybody's already busy calendars, uh, I think that's the biggest limiting factor for now.

SPEAKER_05 18:54

And you're right, people don't generally um go to a doctor or a physio until something's happened, right? But it's it seems it makes more sense in sports too, especially at the high level. And and I know that's I mean, you guys do a great job in that sports space and connect and sponsor, which is amazing. But I think getting that message out to those players to say, and when you're 15 years old, you're gonna live forever, so you don't think about anything. But but if it can it can be a habit to say, this is the proper when I play baseball a proper way to stretch to get ready for the games and that sort of stuff. But I didn't think about it in this form of the case. Of course, yeah. Trevor Burrus, Jr. But but if you could get that into their mindset to say, here's what you must do to to prevent, it just seems like it should be more and maybe it is now, but it should be more of a part of how teams move. Like have has has that come up with your team? I know you've got 12-year-old girls that you're in. They have too much away because there's going to be an episode on it.

SPEAKER_00 19:44

But is there nothing well nothing has come up, but but this is one thing that I wanted to ask Nick is that from a parent's perspective, and not just me, but but other parents that have their kids in the sport, what adv like what would a parent do? Like a parent's listening right now and thinking, oh my gosh, like I want to be proactive in this. What advice would you give a parent right now, you know, to do?

SPEAKER_02 20:04

Aaron Powell Start Start sooner than later, right? So it's like, you know, like it's something as simple as, you know, pick up the phone, book a consult, as cliche as that sounds, and just say, hey, listen, like my kid plays soccer five days a week, my kid plays hockey six days a week. Right. Yeah. Can you just do a screen and see if there's anything lacking that he should be working on or she should be working on to basically make sure that they live a long, happy, injury-free life so that when you get to your late 20s, early 30s, and so forth, you're not hunched over. It's like, oh, I wish I would have done these two little sketches.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

Yeah, just as easy like book a consult. You'll give them the roadmap, right? Here's something you can do that can help. And just that small thing, because it's really the parents that are going to implement them. They pack the lunch, they pack the like they're the ones guiding these little athletes. So a parent comes in, they have that consult, and they got the roadmap.

SPEAKER_02 20:55

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: And and like I said, it's you know, at the end of the day, that'll be a lot more bang for your book, a lot quicker results, you know, than waiting until something happens. Then it's like, okay, well, this is gonna take longer, then you're missing games, you're missing, you know, like nobody wants that.

SPEAKER_00 21:09

Well, like the dentist, brush your teeth.

SPEAKER_02 21:10

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Yeah, brush your teeth. Otherwise, you're gonna pay thousands for a root canal with a cavity.

SPEAKER_00 21:16

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: Well, and brush your teeth and floss, right? Like you can do so many things preventative to help from to keep your teeth for a long time.

SPEAKER_05 21:24

Trevor Burrus, Jr.: And that's so baked into how we live, right? You don't have to tell people, you just kind of do it. Like you don't get up and not have a shower.

SPEAKER_02 21:29

It's and and talking to, I mean, we're talking about young athletes, but like more so from like you know, later life, like geriatric-wise. It's like, hey, if you do 15, 20 sit-to-stand squats a day, yeah, you're likely going to live a much more independent life in your 70s, 80s, right? So it's like, you know, there's the young spectrum, then there's the the geriatric side of things where little actions that you start taking when you're younger can can follow you down the road. Like I have clients in their 80s who've done Tai Chi since they were young.

SPEAKER_00 21:58

I love Tai Chi.

SPEAKER_02 21:59

And the mobility in these people's spines is absolutely unbelievable. So I'm like, it's, you know, there's such a thing as okay, we get older, there's genetics. Yeah. Yeah. But if you start young, it's like sky's the limit.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

And keep moving. It's like, Dory, just keep swimming, just keep keep moving. Walking, moving. The last thing you want to do is like, I can't walk at Hearst. And push through and just keep moving every day. People underestimate walking, I swear. Walking, because you can speed I I know I I speed walk, but walking a lot of walk every day to walk and and to do like just a crouch, a bend, a crawl. These are small things.

SPEAKER_02 22:39

Small baby things.

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Small baby things. So from a parent perspective, we kind of touched on that. What about from a coach perspective? So what could a coach do uh you know in their warmups, uh sheets they could hand out, how could they work with your clinic?

SPEAKER_02 22:53

I think from the coach's point of view, I think the the biggest way that we can you know collaborate well as a team is like obviously I can't be on the field. I don't have eyes on the field, right? But it's it's them being the eyes on the field to pick up on little things. So for example if you see a kid wear tape you know at their on their knee every single game asking the question like hey like what's going on with your knee? Are you doing anything to address that?

SPEAKER_06 23:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

And then you know like if they have her email, we have their email, their text, whatever, be like, hey I have a 13 year old his name's Jim he's getting knee pain when he's going down the stairs and when he sits for a long time, like any advice, right? Like it doesn't necessarily mean to come to the clinic, but as a coach you want all your athletes to stay healthy so that they can go to every game and contribute, right? So oftentimes it's just these little observations and then communicating with the physio they're working with hey like I have like two, three kids on the field right now, they're complaining their feet are sore, you know, ever since we sh went from turf to this, okay, well what about footwear recommendations? If a kid takes a you know a blow to the head playing hockey, did you see them you know blinking multiple times on the bench, has anybody screened them for a concussion because they haven't seemed to be playing the way they're supposed to for the last couple games. Did you do a screen? Did you not do a screen? We can help you with that. So it's just identifying, just making sure which I know is hard as a coach because you're watching so many things, but those little key details that you know as a parent you might not notice that you know Jim's had tape on his knee.

unknown 24:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

You know, the other one shakes his head every time he sprints because he he can't focus and he's trying to focus because he's got a minor concussion.

SPEAKER_00 24:25

That's true. Yeah. No that makes sense. Trevor Burrus Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 24:27

So again again, you know it's just preventionist key. Do you have any injuries that are lingering that you need to be addressed? Have you talked to a physio, have you talked to somebody else in the health field? Have you seen a massage therapist? Like anything to help.

SPEAKER_05 24:39

Are you addressing your issues really is there any advice you would give to just I know we've kind of touched on it, but in terms of that long-term health span for the average person, athletes or otherwise obviously doing things properly young it sets you up well, but is there a general rule that people can follow to kind of stay healthy for I think it's consistency, which is where where I think a lot of people struggle and I think it's why gyms thrive because everybody joins in January.

SPEAKER_02 25:07

We're all going to get fit we're all in 2026 guys, it's going to be my year because I can feel the dad bod going away. Yeah, yeah. But it's yeah it's consistency, right? So you know if you if you stick to something and like you said, like whether it's walking Camilla, whether it's it's you know picking up a sport, staying with it, going to the gym, but even walking three to four times a week and adding a little bit of mobility work into the mix.

SPEAKER_00 25:33

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:33

You know, consistency is the name of the game. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 25:36

And that's with anything really like it's just you get back off you you you fall off the consistency train. You just get back on it. You know, no shame, no blame, no judgment. Like you stopped being physical for six months, whatever, a year. Come back in. Just like you know, just just get back into it.

SPEAKER_02 25:54

You get back. It's harder every time you get back in, obviously I'm sure we've all experienced it. I used to lift way heavier. What is this? Yeah I used to be able to touch my toes. Yeah my shins.

SPEAKER_00 26:06

Yeah. And and there's an expression in yoga that I love is honor where you are today. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

Oh I like that. Yeah that's nice that's good.

SPEAKER_00 26:13

Because it is good because like don't judge what you were yesterday. Honor where you are today and the mobility that you have today and just work with it and don't be in pain. Oh I like that. And and uh also we asked this to our all of our guests but I think I know the the answer to the question. So in the foyer of life and there were two doors there was the artist door and the athlete door. Which door would you choose?

SPEAKER_02 26:36

Athlete 100%. Yeah for sure yeah I I I kind of figured there was no artistic bone in my body. Yeah I was fortunate enough to have great opportunities. My parents supported me quite a bit they they drove me from point A to point B, which as a parent now I appreciate thanks mom and dad. Yeah exactly some of the greatest lessons in my life came through sports so and it you know helped me through high school, university days and today's day.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

So that's beautiful relationship.

unknown 27:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 27:07

So regarding your career too so if you can give yourself advice and you talked about what sort of got you into the world that you're in now with with your dad but if you can give yourself any advice as a younger person, what would you say to that guy?

SPEAKER_02 27:21

Aaron Ross Powell I think it would be don't sweat all the small things. Right? So you know you get you you when you're starting out in this career you're not going to be able to fix everyone quickly every single time. And I think I was pretty hard on myself. Like I lost many hours of sleep. So with the new younger physios I mentor now I say listen like it I still don't know everything and I don't pretend that I know everything. But the more you see the better you'll get and every single patient that comes to you is you know a new experience and you're going to get something out of it. And yeah eventually you'll feel a lot more confident with the job. But but don't you know don't sweat it if it's like ah Camilla's had this and she's only like 20% better and it's been three weeks and I think she should be better. Okay, well ask for help. Ask questions ask colleagues. We work as a team right but don't yeah don't go to bed at night and just like open up the books. It's like what am I missing? I mean now they have AI they can cheat and go on Chat GPT and it'll tell them what they're missing. But I didn't get that in my days.

SPEAKER_00 28:17

Yeah yeah that's true yeah exactly so that is that is good advice yeah yeah but it's just yeah don't don't sweat the small stuff. Yeah yeah and that that's good for any that applies to everybody's life right because I think we all at different times think overthink what you're trying to do or how do you how do you be better so and what I hear from that too is um just connect with people like no one does anything alone right so like don't sweat the small stuff but also like reach out ask and see is there something I'm not seeing you know don't have that that um I don't want to say ego but that kind of like I got this I can figure it out. Just it's it's always okay to ask. We don't know everything.

SPEAKER_02 28:54

No and honestly like I mean now I I've I'm wise and older enough to know that the power of multiple minds is better than one, right? So if you put many people onto one specific case and like that's the key with teamwork. That's why I love working where I work is is it's a team environment.

SPEAKER_04 29:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:10

You know like everybody gets better faster, they have better outcomes and you know the world is a happier place because of it. 100%.

SPEAKER_00 29:16

Well so tell us where is the organization headed? Any any exciting things, expansion?

SPEAKER_02 29:21

Yeah there is I mean we're at nine clinics now so happier to announce there's likely going to be a tenth pretty shortly in the downtown area. Nice. So that's exciting there. Or Arleans Clinic is about to undergo a massive expansion into some some new space. So yeah it's uh that's that's coming up soon pretty exciting as well. We're trying to very shortly also expand on the uh services that we offer and uh you know like Ottawa is a big market but who knows? Sky's the limit. We might be branching out even a little further in the near future.

SPEAKER_00 29:55

So super exciting.

SPEAKER_02 29:57

It's exciting stuff Ottawa is growing too right it's so there's a huge future ahead.

SPEAKER_00 30:03

I'm I can't wait to see where it goes.

SPEAKER_02 30:04

No and thank you Ottawa Ottawa's been great to us.

SPEAKER_00 30:07

Yeah that's awesome. Ottawa does have a bit of a heart to it I I think it does it really does.

SPEAKER_05 30:12

It does yeah and I know we're almost at the end but I wanted to say because we've both been here for a couple of years and it's the smallest big town I've been in. Like it's such there's such a community feel here. It's it's really amazing.

SPEAKER_02 30:23

I came from New Brunswick and it's the best way to describe it is it feels like a a bigger New Brunswick, right? Where we have a small town feel but you know actual good concerts.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

That's funny No it it it does have a small town feel. Matt is there anything that you wanted to uh to add? Anything that you took away from any from the episode?

SPEAKER_01 30:43

Yeah so I do a lot of downhill mountain biking and uh snowboarding seasons right around the corner. So I'm gonna go ahead and grab your information for when I recommend when you go over the handlebars and hit the tree like the three people the summer? Yeah. Let's do some prevention. Let's do some prevention first. Okay please and so uh that's where I was kind of going is I just like too late in my life but recently have really gotten into the the prevention like how can I do these keep doing these activities but do them safely and so like at as a quick example with mountain biking if my hips are tight I'm going to crash. Like it's it's going to happen. I I need that mobility in order to do the sport safely I need my like the explosive muscles to be firing or I'm not getting over that jump and I'm gonna hit a tree.

SPEAKER_02 31:32

Yeah and it's great that you can recognize that because some people don't right and then you know like oh with those kinds of extreme sports then you see like catastrophic injuries that might be like a life altering.

SPEAKER_01 31:43

I'm in my late 30s now and so it it takes a little bit extra of that kind of maintenance work in order to be able to keep doing the sports that I love. The other thing I wanted to ask about is uh so I again I'm no stranger to physio, been there, done that I I know that one of the big issues in physio is that when the the patient is in with the physiotherapist, you know you can get a lot of you know you're getting instant feedback and you're making a lot of progress and then they go home and maybe they do the exercises, maybe they don't, maybe they're not getting the proper feedback. And now there's a whole industry of kind of wearable devices. And I was wondering how that has kind of helped and changed your world.

SPEAKER_02 32:26

Yep the wearables are it's up in technology and the industry as a whole is really an up and coming and coming thing. And you know like like there's so many different apps now that that are available out there. Like like when I give homework, especially with with people that I know don't have the best body awareness, I always attach now, you know, like with the app that I have it's like okay here's your homework but it comes with not pictures but also videos like for instant feedback. And then you can film yourself, send it back to me. Does that look good? Have your spouse film you know that's really good. Yeah. Yeah and a lot of you know like like some of the tech I think is great. Some of the tech um is you know there's there's still things that could be better about it. But yeah technology just on the grand scheme of things I think is going to take a bigger and bigger portion in the the rehab space in the coming years which is exciting.

SPEAKER_00 33:15

Aaron Ross Powell Well yeah to that point uh so I I watch CrossFit the sport.

SPEAKER_02 33:20

Yes. Watch it?

SPEAKER_00 33:22

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 33:23

Is it a show or is it documentaries?

SPEAKER_00 33:25

It's it's a different crowd It is a different crowd. And it's very interesting and I like to watch it.

SPEAKER_02 33:31

So that is a sports inspiring It is inspiring.

SPEAKER_00 33:36

I agree. I love watching it I really do.

SPEAKER_05 33:38

You'll have to recommend you'll have to we'll have to drop it in the show notes too because I can find it.

SPEAKER_00 33:42

Yeah. So because because CrossFit does get a bad rap and and part of that is people do get injuries. Yes. And your point about so I know I was in the space, I was injured and I it's it's a it's a unnecessary repetitiveness is number one. And then technique is important. You are lifting a lot of weight over your head and if you don't have that proper technique dialed in 100 percent there's a large risk of injury.

SPEAKER_02 34:09

Trevor Burrus Yeah and I think I've I've seen some pretty elite CrossFit athletes over the years as clients and I think in terms of preventative work they're probably the most in tune with what they have to do to prevent their injuries. I think where we see a lot of bad rap is the average Joes like me and you go to the gym thinking that we can replicate what we see on TV so I can look like Thor so that my kids are like, wow my dad looks so ripped. 100% but then realistically you know I'm I'm not diligent doing the the work that I gotta get to get there. I just want to lift the heavy weight without the proper form, without this, and then you see the injuries happen.

SPEAKER_00 34:43

Trevor Burrus Well but but my point was when we're talking about prevention was what a great thing the sport does is they talk about there's um go wad you know there's like uh like apps that help you from recovery the stretching the ice baths yeah it's huge on recovery it's huge on recovery like and and what they do and and sleep and and it does give you like huh my sleep is important and and huh what I do after a workout is so important.

SPEAKER_02 35:09

Aaron Ross Powell I think CrossFit is great as at looking at the the the whole right which you know a lot of sports don't do and it's kind of a combo of multiple sports put together right yeah it is Ted you need to look those up it's uh they're fascinating little mini documentation and then so to Matt's point was the apparatuses so they have those leg like like pants that you put on compression uh recovery sleeves yeah and some of the the gyms now are starting to offer those there's um you know like like like recovery rooms where you can basically just put on the compression pants and just rent them. Yeah it's a it's a big new up and coming thing. I think the the biggest limiting factor with those is I mean finances, right? So totally at home that's where it's like the true and trusted, you know, like if you do your own stuff, great. But there's definitely technologies coming out to try to help those who who can afford it where you know you do your marathon training. Well yeah wear your your compression uh you know garments afterwards and let the interesting yeah yeah it is it is really interesting.

SPEAKER_00 36:06

So where can um where can our listeners go to find out more about the clinics or uh or just what would be their journey? Online I mean OPTSC.com, Ottawa Physiotherapy and and sport clinics uh pretty big online presence we're on all the social medias uh OPTSC613 on Instagram uh yeah pick up the phone you can reach us through our website and uh no we're excited to help as many people in Ottawa as we can amazing thank you Nick and you're so approachable so it's it's it was wonderful to have you on yeah yeah thank you so much thanks guys thanks for having me really appreciate it yeah yeah thank you thank you for being here thank you Ted thank you Matt always as always just create insight at the end like I love when Matt brings his points in it's just fantastic but thank you everybody for listening and we do want to um hear your feedback go to from theparkbench.ca leave us some messages let us know um what what your recovery is what you thought of the episode and yeah we just like to hear from you thanks Ted and thank you everybody for listening and chat soon from the park bench